In Gurmukhi (Punjabi). Visit our library at sikh_library/ Guru Nanak Dev Ji met Jinda Mahatma Kabir Ji Evidence in Bhai Bale Wali – JANAM SAKHI – Shri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Topic: Swaal Kaji Rukndin Soora – ਸੁਆਲ. God Kabir had asked Guru Nanak Dev Ji for this secret information about the True Naam Guru Nanak Dev kept Satnam Secret – Janam Sakhi – Bhai Bala.

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Guru Nanak Dev’s demise took place in A.

Paath and simran will help with this. The Guru was stated to have uttered the following Shabad. There seems to be much confusion on this forum on the topic of whether Bhai Bala was a real person or not. Even today many people are so strongly supportive and die hard believers in the existence of Bhai Bala that they will openly use his name in their katha and sakhis within gurdwaras and if anyone dares to even challenge them or question the validity of these sakhis they label them as traitors to the panth and that they are tryin to change history.

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Sunnybondsingh, you have Sant Jarnail Singh ji’s photo as your avatar, you might want to listen to some of their Katha. Both learned and lay men believe that Bhai Bala was a Sikh of Guru Nanak Dev; he was also a resident of Talwandi; during the Gurus long tours, he was ever with the Guru.

In the year a copy of a janamasakhi was dispatched by the India Office Library in London for the use of Dr. This they assured him was essential as the Minas were circulating objectionable things in their version. Retrieved 8 September The chief of the Niranjania sect, Baba Handal has been greatly praised and has been shown of much higher status than Guru Bhaj Dev. Someone should tear down the Baba Handali place. We here are all some fortunate tho that we are all currently students or were students recently and have been taught the value of critical analysis.


His father-in-law curses his fate to have a son-in-law like Guru Nanak. This janamsakhi was the basis of the accounts written by Trumpp, Macauliffe, and most Sikh scholars.

Bhai Bale Wali Janam Sakhi

Every literate Sikh should read this book and appreciate the real service rendered by him. The four Janamsakhis that have survived into the modern era include the BalaMiharbanAdi and Puratan versions, and each hagiography contradicts the other.

In the Janamsakhi of Niranjanias, it has sakkhi clearly admitted that Kabir was the greatest of all the Bhagats, except for Baba Handal. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Of the still existing copies of the Puratan Janam-sakhis the two most important were the Colebrooke and Hafizabad versions.


My current state of mind. The posts by Veer SunnybondSingh jee has presented good summarys of these writers books. Its lengthy sequel, Suraj Parkash carries the account up to the tenth Guru and contains a higher proportion of historical fact, this was completed in Locals advised his father that Nanak should be married. However to counter-act Guru ji being claimed as a muslim, hindus created Bhai Bala ji in old texts.

The following Janamm appears in Bala’s Janamsakhi purported to have been uttered by Guru Nanak Dev during discussion with Pandit Braham Das Kashmiri gur miliyai man rahasiyai, lion vuthai dharan see gar. The author of the Janamsakhi tied up both sakh ends one Handal was raised sky high and the other Guru Nanak Dev according to their mean thoughts, lowered to greatest depth of the underworld.

The account of Guru Ji learning to read from the pundit is also recounted here. The second point is all the more surprising.

These compositions have been written at various stages after the death of the first guru. Sometime later Nanak moved to Sultanpur where his sister Sakhl was married. There are countless other anti-gurmat sakhis and things written in his janam sakhi that are hard to believe. Celebs encourage women to be sl gs, the media endorses this by placing trash like the Kardashians on a platform.


Retrieved from ” https: Sign In Sign Up. Last time I saw your post “conflicts” where you share all the things that people fight about and updating your lists putting too much effort. There are good reasons to doubt this contention:. Pyare jio, most people believe Bhai Bala ji is an invention of the hindu right-wing groups.

Singh, where do you find this gandh? The Minas were a robber tribe and in Punjabi the word has come to mean someone who conceals his true evil intent. For your mood, do two things: Though from the point of view of a historian the janamsakhis may be inadequate, they cannot be wholly discarded because they were based on legend and tradition which had grown up around the Guru in the years following his physical passing away, and furnish useful material to augment the bare but proved facts of his life.

Guru Ji responds with three sloks:.

Does Waheguru forgive cheating? Gurbani is clear that Guru ji belonged only to Akaal.

Posted March 6, This page was last edited on 22 Julyat Sardar Karam Singh janm has proved that this book was written after Bikrami A. Nothing bad against you but do some positive parchar my friend.

Prithi Chand’s behaviour was evidently unsatisfactory as he was passed over in favour of his younger brother, Guru Arjan Dev, when his father chose a successor. The first of these was discovered inthe manuscript had been donated to the library of the east India company by H.